By KeithM
I attended the GT vs. UM game last night and was treated to the most dominant performance from UM since the 2007 TX A&M vs. UM game (another Thursday night game). The result of last night's game made UM's Thursday night stats 14 -2 in Thursday Night games and 10 - 0 at UM on Thursday Nights.
A few points worth addressing:
*UM stopped the run…COLD – GT racked up 472 yds last year...UM’s defense held them to 95 yds on the ground last night. DOMINANT
*The issue of how good Jacory Harris and UM’s offense is, is difficult to address. I understand the argument that UM has not proven itself recently the way the Longhorns, Trojans, Sooners or Gators have and therefore there is inherent doubt & question as to whether or not they’re the real deal. However, Miami has played 2 teams that were ranked in the top 20 of the country at the time of the game. Miami has put up some pretty gaudy stats in these 2 games. Obviously, if the defense is blowing through the O-line & getting after the QB(for any team), he is not going to look real good, but that then becomes the fault of the O-line and not the QB. A QB that sits in the pocket, unmolested for 2 games picking apart the secondary with open receivers is not necessarily a questionable QB, but rather, 1 component of an effective offense (read: good team). I say that a QB dealing with constant pressure and unable to find open receivers is a QB playing for a bad team. Sure: plays will need to be made when Jacory inevitably ends up dealing with a top ranked Defense but we may not see this until the end of the season.
*As would be expected, GT picked on Sam Shields, who has (frustratingly) been misused and underutilized his whole college career. Sam Shields is a senior who is now playing his 1st season at Corner for the Canes. He’s actually a backup who’s been thrust into the starting role due to an injury to UM’s starting corner, Demarcus Van Dyke. Sam is still learning the position and this has been evident in UM’s first 2 games. This is & was Miami’s weak link over the first 2 games but should no longer be a discussion as DVD is expected back next week at Va. Tech.
*Matt Bosher/special teams: WOW…this needs major work. Just ask FSU how important it is to hit your field goals: especially chip shots like the ones Bosher missed last night. I have no idea what happened but I’m confident that this Lou Groza award candidate will pull it together and get his shit straight.
*I actually went with a buddy of mine to a pre-season Gator Club rally in Ft. Lauderdale last season (free food & beer) and Urban Meyer said something that has stuck in my head since that night and is now applicable to UM. He said, “…we’re not a good team yet, but we’re working on it and at the end of the year, I think we can be a real good team.” As we now know, that was incredibly prophetic as the Gators went on to win their 2nd NC that year. I see UM in a very similar boat this year: last year was another tough year, but you could see some good things happening and the pieces were becoming more in place. This year, we’ve still got a very young team (approx 53 of 90 kids are freshmen or sophomores) but things are starting to click and I also feel that at the end of last year and through the summer, UM was not a very good team but these first 2 games are showing me that we are and can likely be a very good team.
*I'm not saying Miami will go undefeated as this is still a very young team, but going into the season, I thought an 8-4 season was likely: I'm now thinking 10-2 is likely while an undefeated season isn't completely unrealistic. A huge factor in this will be whether or not Sam Bradford plays on 10/3 (I think he will).
*UM vs. VT: UM has nearly scored at will so I like our chances in any game from here on out. The Defense took a big step forward last night and showed a ton of maturity from last year. The kicking game still needs significant work. Significant mention needs to be made about UM’s offensive line. This is a unit that’s only 6 deep and is starting a senior in Matt Pipho who is now starting for the first time in his career aside from filling in for injuries last year against Va. Tech. UM beat Va Tech last year 16 – 14 and Va Tech had Darren Evans at that time: they won’t have him this year. Tyrod Taylor is mistake prone. UM has 10 days to prepare for VT and should really be clicking at that time. It’s always tough to play in Blacksburg, but I expect a solid game again and a final score of 38-21.
*Offensive Coordinator, Mark Whipple: He will be gone after this year, or next year (at best). It’s beautiful watching what an experienced, sharp mind can do with talent. It goes to show how much of a waste, Patrick Nix was. Granted, Patrick Nix didn’t have the players that Whipple is working with, but my feeling (and untold others) is that he doesn’t hold a candle to Mark Whipple. Look for Whipple to be the Head Coach of a major D1 team or OC for an NFL team within 2 years.
*Unforced errors are UM's biggest opponent
*UNC toughest game after OK and possibly the only real test the rest of the year.
*Jacory for Heisman - why not? 70% completion. Right now - should be considered...we’ll see if UM’s O-Line can keep up their great performance. If so, and if Jacory continues this trend, tell why not…
*I assure you, the game wasn't as close as the final score - UM mostly ran on 2 drives inside the 10 (working on developing the run - could have scored on passing) - shoulda, coulda, woulda doesn't count
*Although I'd have liked to have seen UM hang 50 on GT, it was good to see that UM ran the ball the last 2 times inside the 10 and took a knee to finish out the game when we were deep inside GT Territory with over a minute to play.
*There is a lot of talk about UM as the media hype machine LOVES talking Canes whether it’s when they’re down or up. I’ve heard some people seriously mentioning the possibility of a shot at the NC (against UF???)… These folks have drank the entire pitcher of kool aid and are starting on the person’s next to them. Yes, the if the Canes were to go 3-1 or 4-0 and win the ACC, the BCS would love their strength of schedule and stats. However, there’s still a lot of football to play but I like the way it’s started off…
Friday, September 18, 2009
Miami and the ACC
Well KeithM nailed the score within 2 points. Pretty impressive. What wasn't impressive was Georgia Tech. I believe they are now 11-5 under Paul Johnson and based on their last two games I think that loss column is going to swell up a bit more this year. Sure they'll probably still beat the bottom half of the ACC but that'll probably put them barely over 500 and certainly WAY out of bowl contention.
Miami on the other hand... well they look good. I hate to say it because I'm certainly not a fan but I guess it makes it that much more relevant. Last week people were quick to praise Jacory Harris for his effort against FSU but you can't grab my praises after one game against a stumbling team. GaTech is no super defense and I still don't think Harris had to work that hard last night but nonetheless he has shown a very accurate arm and a pretty cool head. He should be thanking his offensive line and his receivers though because he's had all the time in the world to pass and his receivers have been WIDE open 90% of the time. Don't get me wrong, I do think he's good and I think he has the potential to be really really good; I'm just waiting to see how he reacts under pressure. If his O-Line and receivers keep playing like they have the past two games then I may not get to see him under pressure which Miami would be more than happy about.
Miami's next two games are at VTech and home against Oklahoma. Virginia Tech is the only other real competition in the ACC Coastal Division and possibly in the entire ACC (we'll see how Boston College looks against Clemson this week). So next week's matchup will likely determine the ACC Coastal winner. Even if Miami loses to VTech and Oklahoma the rest of their schedule is a cake walk and they'll end the season at 10-2.
Miami on the other hand... well they look good. I hate to say it because I'm certainly not a fan but I guess it makes it that much more relevant. Last week people were quick to praise Jacory Harris for his effort against FSU but you can't grab my praises after one game against a stumbling team. GaTech is no super defense and I still don't think Harris had to work that hard last night but nonetheless he has shown a very accurate arm and a pretty cool head. He should be thanking his offensive line and his receivers though because he's had all the time in the world to pass and his receivers have been WIDE open 90% of the time. Don't get me wrong, I do think he's good and I think he has the potential to be really really good; I'm just waiting to see how he reacts under pressure. If his O-Line and receivers keep playing like they have the past two games then I may not get to see him under pressure which Miami would be more than happy about.
Miami's next two games are at VTech and home against Oklahoma. Virginia Tech is the only other real competition in the ACC Coastal Division and possibly in the entire ACC (we'll see how Boston College looks against Clemson this week). So next week's matchup will likely determine the ACC Coastal winner. Even if Miami loses to VTech and Oklahoma the rest of their schedule is a cake walk and they'll end the season at 10-2.
Wednesday, September 16, 2009
GT vs. UM - Predictions
SteveB: It’s gonna be all about UM's defense. If they can stop GT’s offense, keep them under 21 points, I think they’ll win. Maybe pull out a 24-21 victory.
KeithM: Yup – I’m not worried about UM’s offense: we can score. But if the D allows GT to grind it out all night, then the offense might not have enough time to do their thing. They key is shutting down Dwyer and getting ahead early which will force them to throw. They can’t throw and both UM & GT know it. I really don’t see a repeat of last year if only because it was so bad last year. UM has had 10 days to prepare, so there are no excuses if they get run over. I think UM wins it going away, but you won’t really see it until the 3rd or 4th Q. 31 – 17 UM.
Stats of the week: UM is 13-2 in Thursday night games, 9-0 at home, and GT has won the last 4 games.
JakeB: This game is hard to predict. I agree that's it all about Miami's D. If they let the option run wild, they don't have a chance. They couldn't stop it last year and the defense certainly didn't look good against FSU. Also, I don't understand GaTech yet. They've blown huge leads in both of their games. It seems like a running team should only get stronger in the second half. I think GaTech has an advantage w/ the option and all they need to do is force one or two turnovers and run the shit out of ball.
SteveB: You make a good point. I didn't see their first game but I saw the game against Clemson. Technically they blew a big lead but their touchdowns were all hokie. It's not like they built up a legitimate lead and then crumbled. They got lucky a few times and then Clemson woke up and started stopping the run. If Clemson didn't have their heads in their butts to start the game they would have won that game easily. And by that token I give the edge to UM.
KeithM: Yup – I’m not worried about UM’s offense: we can score. But if the D allows GT to grind it out all night, then the offense might not have enough time to do their thing. They key is shutting down Dwyer and getting ahead early which will force them to throw. They can’t throw and both UM & GT know it. I really don’t see a repeat of last year if only because it was so bad last year. UM has had 10 days to prepare, so there are no excuses if they get run over. I think UM wins it going away, but you won’t really see it until the 3rd or 4th Q. 31 – 17 UM.
Stats of the week: UM is 13-2 in Thursday night games, 9-0 at home, and GT has won the last 4 games.
JakeB: This game is hard to predict. I agree that's it all about Miami's D. If they let the option run wild, they don't have a chance. They couldn't stop it last year and the defense certainly didn't look good against FSU. Also, I don't understand GaTech yet. They've blown huge leads in both of their games. It seems like a running team should only get stronger in the second half. I think GaTech has an advantage w/ the option and all they need to do is force one or two turnovers and run the shit out of ball.
SteveB: You make a good point. I didn't see their first game but I saw the game against Clemson. Technically they blew a big lead but their touchdowns were all hokie. It's not like they built up a legitimate lead and then crumbled. They got lucky a few times and then Clemson woke up and started stopping the run. If Clemson didn't have their heads in their butts to start the game they would have won that game easily. And by that token I give the edge to UM.
Monday, August 3, 2009
Non-Conference Scheduling
Whoa Nelly! Football season is a month off, give or take a day, so I am naturally getting Tiger Woods fist pump-pumped about 1) Getting to watch a whole lot of college football, and 2) Being able to completely ignore baseball, its cheaters, and its 160-whatever games a year. So, expect some more posts from me over the next fews weeks as we lead up to the start of the best regular season in all of sports.
Today's post will talk about something that people seem to bring up a lot during this time of the year: non-conference scheduling. Different posters like to point out that their team schedules difficult non-conference games, while making fun of other schools that schedule cupcakes (with much of the cupcake talk being directed at SEC schools). Other than the fact that it would be great for college football fans to see more BCS-major conference teams go up against each other, there really isn't a good reason for many schools to schedule a tough non-conference schedule. Here is why:
Your Strength of Schedule may suffer (for BCS-standing purposes), but it probably won't.
If you are in the SEC or the Big XII (thought by most to be the two best conferences from top to bottom) your strength of schedule usually isn't hurt by a weak non-conference schedule since you will end up playing 4 or 5 top-25 teams during the course of the year, and especially if you make it to your conference's championship game. Historically, the risk of scheduling tough games outside of your league has not proven to be necessary.
Previous BCS Champions have had less than stellar non-conference schedules and still claimed the ultimate prize
Four of the past six BCS championships have gone to the SEC (UF in '06 and '08; LSU in '07 and '03) and each time these teams were able to make it into the BCS Championship Game with a loss on their schedule and a mediocre non-conference schedule. LSU even had TWO losses in '07 and snuck into the NCG. So, why make it even tougher on your team than you have to?
Doesn't every team begin the year with the hopes of bringing home a National Championship? It just blows my mind that so many PAC-10 and Big-10 fans cry and moan over this issue when the bottom line is that SEC schools are just smart for working the system. Until something changes that would require teams like LSU and Florida to schedule tougher teams in order to make it to the NCG, why would they?
And just for reference, here are the non-conference schedules of the past 6 BCS winners with their most difficult non-conference(s) games in bold:
2003 - LSU
Louisiana Monroe (finished 1-11)
@ Arizona (finished 2-10)
Western Illinois (finished 9-4)
La Tech (finished 5-7)
*Look how sorry this non-conference schedule was, and yet they still got chosen over USC to play in the NCG.
2004 - Southern Cal
@ Virginia Tech (finished 10-3)
Colorado State (finished 4-7)
@ BYU (finished 5-6)
Notre Dame (finished 6-6)
*While some of these games may have looked good going into the season, their records show that even the mighty Trojans only had one legitimately tough non-conference game (They just waxed the floor with everyone they faced this year).
2005 - Texas
Louisiana Lafayette (finished 6-5)
@ Ohio State (finished 10-2)
Rice (finished 1-10)
2006 - Florida
Southern Mississippi (finished 9-5)
Central Florida (finished 4-8)
Western Carolina (finished 2-9)
@ Florida State (finished 7-6)
*A road-win against their biggest rival and a decent season by Southern Miss were barely enough to help UF's SOS in over-taking Michigan for 2nd in the final BCS standings in 2006, sending them to the NCG where they showed Ohio State how football is supposed to be played.
2007 - LSU
Virginia Tech (finished 11-3)
Middle Tennessee State (finished 5-7)
@ Tulane (finished 4-8)
La Tech (finished 5-7)
*That early season blow-out of a very good Hokies team was enough to get LSU back into the NCG even after two losses.
2008 - Florida
Hawaii (finished 7-7)
Miami FL (finished 7-6)
Citadel (finished 4-8)
@ Florida State (finished 9-4)
Today's post will talk about something that people seem to bring up a lot during this time of the year: non-conference scheduling. Different posters like to point out that their team schedules difficult non-conference games, while making fun of other schools that schedule cupcakes (with much of the cupcake talk being directed at SEC schools). Other than the fact that it would be great for college football fans to see more BCS-major conference teams go up against each other, there really isn't a good reason for many schools to schedule a tough non-conference schedule. Here is why:
Your Strength of Schedule may suffer (for BCS-standing purposes), but it probably won't.
If you are in the SEC or the Big XII (thought by most to be the two best conferences from top to bottom) your strength of schedule usually isn't hurt by a weak non-conference schedule since you will end up playing 4 or 5 top-25 teams during the course of the year, and especially if you make it to your conference's championship game. Historically, the risk of scheduling tough games outside of your league has not proven to be necessary.
Previous BCS Champions have had less than stellar non-conference schedules and still claimed the ultimate prize
Four of the past six BCS championships have gone to the SEC (UF in '06 and '08; LSU in '07 and '03) and each time these teams were able to make it into the BCS Championship Game with a loss on their schedule and a mediocre non-conference schedule. LSU even had TWO losses in '07 and snuck into the NCG. So, why make it even tougher on your team than you have to?
Doesn't every team begin the year with the hopes of bringing home a National Championship? It just blows my mind that so many PAC-10 and Big-10 fans cry and moan over this issue when the bottom line is that SEC schools are just smart for working the system. Until something changes that would require teams like LSU and Florida to schedule tougher teams in order to make it to the NCG, why would they?
And just for reference, here are the non-conference schedules of the past 6 BCS winners with their most difficult non-conference(s) games in bold:
2003 - LSU
Louisiana Monroe (finished 1-11)
@ Arizona (finished 2-10)
Western Illinois (finished 9-4)
La Tech (finished 5-7)
*Look how sorry this non-conference schedule was, and yet they still got chosen over USC to play in the NCG.
2004 - Southern Cal
@ Virginia Tech (finished 10-3)
Colorado State (finished 4-7)
@ BYU (finished 5-6)
Notre Dame (finished 6-6)
*While some of these games may have looked good going into the season, their records show that even the mighty Trojans only had one legitimately tough non-conference game (They just waxed the floor with everyone they faced this year).
2005 - Texas
Louisiana Lafayette (finished 6-5)
@ Ohio State (finished 10-2)
Rice (finished 1-10)
2006 - Florida
Southern Mississippi (finished 9-5)
Central Florida (finished 4-8)
Western Carolina (finished 2-9)
@ Florida State (finished 7-6)
*A road-win against their biggest rival and a decent season by Southern Miss were barely enough to help UF's SOS in over-taking Michigan for 2nd in the final BCS standings in 2006, sending them to the NCG where they showed Ohio State how football is supposed to be played.
2007 - LSU
Virginia Tech (finished 11-3)
Middle Tennessee State (finished 5-7)
@ Tulane (finished 4-8)
La Tech (finished 5-7)
*That early season blow-out of a very good Hokies team was enough to get LSU back into the NCG even after two losses.
2008 - Florida
Hawaii (finished 7-7)
Miami FL (finished 7-6)
Citadel (finished 4-8)
@ Florida State (finished 9-4)
Friday, January 9, 2009
Why Utah is not #1
Don't get me wrong. It is a special thing to go undefeated in D-1 football, no matter what conference you are in. The parity in college football has never been more evident, so going undefeated in say, the Mountain West conference, does indeed prove that you are a great football team. However, it does not mean that you are best team and deserving to be #1. I think you'll agree with me by the end of this article.
Comparing Utah and Florida's schedules:
Florida beat 10 bowl teams this season, who went 6-4 in bowl games.
Utah beat 6 bowl teams this season, who went 3-3 in bowl games.
Florida beat 5 teams ranked in the final AP poll, with an average ranking of 11.8 (5,6,13,14,21).
Utah beat 4 teams ranked in the final AP poll, with an average ranking of 14 (6,7,18,25).
Both teams played Alabama on a neutral site and both beat them. However, Florida beat them when the game meant everything to BOTH teams. Utah beat them when everything was on the line for just Utah. Alabama was also without their stud OL Andre Smith against Utah. The result? 8 sacks for the Utes. Clearly Utah showed up to play this game, and Alabama just showed up to receive their bowl gifts.
But Utah Didn't Lose, and Florida Did
This is true. Utah went 13-0, while the Gators went 13-1. The Gators one loss came to Ole Miss back in September as the result of the Gators playing a pretty bad half of football. Turnovers (3) and missed opportunities (missed PAT at end of game, and, missed 4th and 1 conversion) did the Gators in as they lost 31-30. Yet in my mind, Utah has a couple of losses of their own.
Playing in the SEC is tough, because if you play a bad quarter or a bad half, you will probably lose the game. Yet, in the Mountain West, you can do that and still come out with a win. Take Utah's game against Air Force. The Utes turned the ball over 3 times and barely escaped with a 30-23 win. Turning the ball over 3 times and still winning is a rarity in the SEC. Or, take the New Mexico game. The Utes had 2 turnovers themselves, didn't cause any turnovers, and barely won 13-10. AGAINST NEW MEXICO!!!! IN NOVEMBER!!! New Mexico didn't even go to a bowl game and finished 4-8 on the season. Surely if Utah is such a dominating team deserving to be #1, they could have, and should have, destroyed a team like New Mexico. Finally, we can't forget about Utah's 13-10 win over TCU. Utah was outgained 416 yards to 275 years. Plus, the horned frogs had two chip-shot field goals that would have tied or won the game in the 4th quarter and missed them both. Boise State would have played Alabama in the Sugar Bowl if TCU had a half-way decent field goal kicker. As far as I am concerned, those wins are just as good as losses.
But back to Ole Miss. Yes, the Gators lost. Yes, they lost at home. However, they lost to a team who went 9-4 on the season, with those four losses coming at a TOTAL of 19 points. Ole Miss is a great football team, and even proved it by going into Texas and beating up on Texas Tech on New Year's Day. Losing to them looked less and less of an eye-sore as the season went on.
The odds makers in Las Vegas even put a hypothetical line on a Utah versus Florida matchup. They would put the Gators as 14 point favorites. While those guys aren't always right, it is something to think about.
Where does Utah Belong?
Utah is a top team in the country, but surely doesn't deserve #1 consideration over the Gators. Be happy with #2 in the AP poll and #4 in the Coaches poll. And pray to God that a playoff is on the horizon.
Comparing Utah and Florida's schedules:
Florida beat 10 bowl teams this season, who went 6-4 in bowl games.
Utah beat 6 bowl teams this season, who went 3-3 in bowl games.
Florida beat 5 teams ranked in the final AP poll, with an average ranking of 11.8 (5,6,13,14,21).
Utah beat 4 teams ranked in the final AP poll, with an average ranking of 14 (6,7,18,25).
Both teams played Alabama on a neutral site and both beat them. However, Florida beat them when the game meant everything to BOTH teams. Utah beat them when everything was on the line for just Utah. Alabama was also without their stud OL Andre Smith against Utah. The result? 8 sacks for the Utes. Clearly Utah showed up to play this game, and Alabama just showed up to receive their bowl gifts.
But Utah Didn't Lose, and Florida Did
This is true. Utah went 13-0, while the Gators went 13-1. The Gators one loss came to Ole Miss back in September as the result of the Gators playing a pretty bad half of football. Turnovers (3) and missed opportunities (missed PAT at end of game, and, missed 4th and 1 conversion) did the Gators in as they lost 31-30. Yet in my mind, Utah has a couple of losses of their own.
Playing in the SEC is tough, because if you play a bad quarter or a bad half, you will probably lose the game. Yet, in the Mountain West, you can do that and still come out with a win. Take Utah's game against Air Force. The Utes turned the ball over 3 times and barely escaped with a 30-23 win. Turning the ball over 3 times and still winning is a rarity in the SEC. Or, take the New Mexico game. The Utes had 2 turnovers themselves, didn't cause any turnovers, and barely won 13-10. AGAINST NEW MEXICO!!!! IN NOVEMBER!!! New Mexico didn't even go to a bowl game and finished 4-8 on the season. Surely if Utah is such a dominating team deserving to be #1, they could have, and should have, destroyed a team like New Mexico. Finally, we can't forget about Utah's 13-10 win over TCU. Utah was outgained 416 yards to 275 years. Plus, the horned frogs had two chip-shot field goals that would have tied or won the game in the 4th quarter and missed them both. Boise State would have played Alabama in the Sugar Bowl if TCU had a half-way decent field goal kicker. As far as I am concerned, those wins are just as good as losses.
But back to Ole Miss. Yes, the Gators lost. Yes, they lost at home. However, they lost to a team who went 9-4 on the season, with those four losses coming at a TOTAL of 19 points. Ole Miss is a great football team, and even proved it by going into Texas and beating up on Texas Tech on New Year's Day. Losing to them looked less and less of an eye-sore as the season went on.
The odds makers in Las Vegas even put a hypothetical line on a Utah versus Florida matchup. They would put the Gators as 14 point favorites. While those guys aren't always right, it is something to think about.
Where does Utah Belong?
Utah is a top team in the country, but surely doesn't deserve #1 consideration over the Gators. Be happy with #2 in the AP poll and #4 in the Coaches poll. And pray to God that a playoff is on the horizon.
Monday, December 1, 2008
ACC vs. SEC
ChrisB brought up a really good point in his comment on Boise State, the BCS, and Gettin' Hosed and I wanted to elaborate. Here is part of his comment:
"Also...the ACC teams that we all "do not want to see" beat three bowl eligible SEC teams this weekend. FSU was the only ACC team to fall to an SEC team and overall for the year the ACC has a winning record against the down SEC this year. Maybe South Carolina, Vandy, and Georgia should stay home with Auburn and make room for Clemson, Wake, and Ga Tech."
This thought had crossed my mind just recently as well and so here are the ACC vs. SEC results for the year.
Florida (11-1) beat FSU (8-4) and Miami (7-5).
Alabama (12-0) beat Clemson (7-5)
Wake Forest (7-5) beat Ole Miss (8-4) and Vanderbilt (6-6)
Georgia Tech (9-3) beat Mississippi State (4-8) and Georgia (9-3)
Duke (4-8) beat Vanderbilt
I think we can all agree that Florida and Alabama are hands down better than the rest of the SEC (although a reasonable argument could be made for Ole Miss). Removing Florida and Alabama from the results above you have the ACC at 5-0 against the SEC.
The SEC had 6 preseason AP Top 25 teams (#1 Georgia, #5 Florida, #7 LSU, #10 Auburn, #18 Tennessee, #24 Alabama). The ACC had 3 (#9 Clemson, #17 Virginia Tech, #23 Wake Forest).
Currently the AP Top 25 looks like this:
SEC: #1 Alabama, #2 Florida, #17 Georgia, #22 Ole Miss
ACC: #15 Georgia Tech, #18 Boston College
The SEC had twice as many preseason teams in the AP Top 25 than the ACC and despite a bit of switching around that fact still remains true. What is extremely interesting about all of this are these final numbers...
Overall record for the SEC: 85-59
Overall record for the ACC: 85-59
Out of conference record for the SEC: 37-11
Out of conference record for the ACC: 37-11
ACC vs. SEC: 5-3
Bowl season is gonna be very interesting...
"Also...the ACC teams that we all "do not want to see" beat three bowl eligible SEC teams this weekend. FSU was the only ACC team to fall to an SEC team and overall for the year the ACC has a winning record against the down SEC this year. Maybe South Carolina, Vandy, and Georgia should stay home with Auburn and make room for Clemson, Wake, and Ga Tech."
This thought had crossed my mind just recently as well and so here are the ACC vs. SEC results for the year.
Florida (11-1) beat FSU (8-4) and Miami (7-5).
Alabama (12-0) beat Clemson (7-5)
Wake Forest (7-5) beat Ole Miss (8-4) and Vanderbilt (6-6)
Georgia Tech (9-3) beat Mississippi State (4-8) and Georgia (9-3)
Duke (4-8) beat Vanderbilt
I think we can all agree that Florida and Alabama are hands down better than the rest of the SEC (although a reasonable argument could be made for Ole Miss). Removing Florida and Alabama from the results above you have the ACC at 5-0 against the SEC.
The SEC had 6 preseason AP Top 25 teams (#1 Georgia, #5 Florida, #7 LSU, #10 Auburn, #18 Tennessee, #24 Alabama). The ACC had 3 (#9 Clemson, #17 Virginia Tech, #23 Wake Forest).
Currently the AP Top 25 looks like this:
SEC: #1 Alabama, #2 Florida, #17 Georgia, #22 Ole Miss
ACC: #15 Georgia Tech, #18 Boston College
The SEC had twice as many preseason teams in the AP Top 25 than the ACC and despite a bit of switching around that fact still remains true. What is extremely interesting about all of this are these final numbers...
Overall record for the SEC: 85-59
Overall record for the ACC: 85-59
Out of conference record for the SEC: 37-11
Out of conference record for the ACC: 37-11
ACC vs. SEC: 5-3
Bowl season is gonna be very interesting...
Friday, November 28, 2008
Boise State, the BCS, and Gettin' Hosed
It is late and I am still awake. The obvious reason is that I am too pumped about tomorrow's college football games to allow myself to doze off. Another reason is that the kids that live in the apartment above us seem to be running laps at 12:30 AM. So, I won't try to fight it, and I'll just take this opportunity to give some more opinions on the BCS.
Tonight, Boise State finished out their perfect regular season with a 61-10 blowout of Fresno State, yet finds themselves on the outside of the BCS looking in. Their best chances of getting an at-large bid are for Oregon to beat Oregon State, thus keeping two PAC-10 schools out of the BCS (assuming USC has already punched their ticket -- which I believe they have). Then, they have to hope that a 2-loss Ohio State (big-game chokers!) team doesn't get chosen over them for the final BCS spot.
If Boise State does not get a BCS bid, they will end up playing in the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise, Idaho on December 30th, on their home field, in the freezing cold, and earning the $750,000 payout that comes with it. However, should they get an at-large bid to play in the Orange Bowl, they would be playing on New Year's Day in front of a huge nationally televised audience, in beautiful south Florida, and earning the roughly $17-million payout that comes with it. That's quite a drop in location, exposure, and, most-importantly, money.
It is also a huge drop in competition, as they would be playing the #1 ACC team in the Orange Bowl, while they would be getting the #8 ACC team in the Humanitarian Bowl. Will anyone really tune-in to watch Boise State put up 60 points on Wake Forest? Doubtful. However, who wouldn't tune-in to see the Broncos play for an undefeated season against the ACC Champion? If you remember the Fiesta Bowl from a couple of years ago, you wouldn't miss this game for anything. That was by far the most exciting game I have ever watched in my life, and probably one of the most exciting games ever. On Boise State's last series, I wasn't on the edge of my seat. That is because I sitting on the floor 18 inches from my tv screen, watching in amazement. The hook-and-ladder and the statue of liberty, run to perfection, with no time left? To win the game? Yeah, sign me up again, please.
Some will say that Boise State doesn't deserve to be in a BCS game due to their schedule. And I agree, it is pretty dismal. Their best win was on the road against a decent Oregon team (8-3). However, after that, the level of competition drops off significantly. But for the most part, they are blowing out their lesser opponents and have earned their #9 ranking. They even have a 10th-ranked BCS computer average, so it is not just the humans that think they have earned their ranking.
(Soapbox Moment in 3....2....1.....) The problem with the BCS is that the six major conferences have automatic bids no matter what they are ranked. In 2005, a Florida State team ranked #22 in the BCS standings won the ACC and got to play in the Orange Bowl. And this year, it again appears that we will have a low-ranked, 3 or 4-loss ACC team playing in the Orange Bowl due to the automatic bid. Some may say that it just shows that the ACC is very good from top to bottom. I'll say that it shows that the ACC is full of evenly-matched, mediocre teams.
If Boise State is left out of the BCS mix, the Orange Bowl will likely pit Big East champ Cincinnati against the ACC champ (BC, V Tech, FSU, or G Tech). If that is the case, you can guarantee that I won't be watching the Orange Bowl this year. The combined ranking of these teams would be around 30; not exactly a prime BCS match-up if the ask me. The Capital One Bowl and the Cotton Bowl would be better match-ups than the Orange Bowl!
So, join me in rooting for the Ducks to upset the Beavers tomorrow, and maybe we'll get to watch Boise give us another football miracle this bowl season.
Tonight, Boise State finished out their perfect regular season with a 61-10 blowout of Fresno State, yet finds themselves on the outside of the BCS looking in. Their best chances of getting an at-large bid are for Oregon to beat Oregon State, thus keeping two PAC-10 schools out of the BCS (assuming USC has already punched their ticket -- which I believe they have). Then, they have to hope that a 2-loss Ohio State (big-game chokers!) team doesn't get chosen over them for the final BCS spot.
If Boise State does not get a BCS bid, they will end up playing in the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise, Idaho on December 30th, on their home field, in the freezing cold, and earning the $750,000 payout that comes with it. However, should they get an at-large bid to play in the Orange Bowl, they would be playing on New Year's Day in front of a huge nationally televised audience, in beautiful south Florida, and earning the roughly $17-million payout that comes with it. That's quite a drop in location, exposure, and, most-importantly, money.
It is also a huge drop in competition, as they would be playing the #1 ACC team in the Orange Bowl, while they would be getting the #8 ACC team in the Humanitarian Bowl. Will anyone really tune-in to watch Boise State put up 60 points on Wake Forest? Doubtful. However, who wouldn't tune-in to see the Broncos play for an undefeated season against the ACC Champion? If you remember the Fiesta Bowl from a couple of years ago, you wouldn't miss this game for anything. That was by far the most exciting game I have ever watched in my life, and probably one of the most exciting games ever. On Boise State's last series, I wasn't on the edge of my seat. That is because I sitting on the floor 18 inches from my tv screen, watching in amazement. The hook-and-ladder and the statue of liberty, run to perfection, with no time left? To win the game? Yeah, sign me up again, please.
Some will say that Boise State doesn't deserve to be in a BCS game due to their schedule. And I agree, it is pretty dismal. Their best win was on the road against a decent Oregon team (8-3). However, after that, the level of competition drops off significantly. But for the most part, they are blowing out their lesser opponents and have earned their #9 ranking. They even have a 10th-ranked BCS computer average, so it is not just the humans that think they have earned their ranking.
(Soapbox Moment in 3....2....1.....) The problem with the BCS is that the six major conferences have automatic bids no matter what they are ranked. In 2005, a Florida State team ranked #22 in the BCS standings won the ACC and got to play in the Orange Bowl. And this year, it again appears that we will have a low-ranked, 3 or 4-loss ACC team playing in the Orange Bowl due to the automatic bid. Some may say that it just shows that the ACC is very good from top to bottom. I'll say that it shows that the ACC is full of evenly-matched, mediocre teams.
If Boise State is left out of the BCS mix, the Orange Bowl will likely pit Big East champ Cincinnati against the ACC champ (BC, V Tech, FSU, or G Tech). If that is the case, you can guarantee that I won't be watching the Orange Bowl this year. The combined ranking of these teams would be around 30; not exactly a prime BCS match-up if the ask me. The Capital One Bowl and the Cotton Bowl would be better match-ups than the Orange Bowl!
So, join me in rooting for the Ducks to upset the Beavers tomorrow, and maybe we'll get to watch Boise give us another football miracle this bowl season.
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